How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. Siding with the Powder Gangers in Goodsprings will get you Shunned by the NCR. -spoilers-. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). All rights reserved. I only start in Goodsprings occasionally. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Boone to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. Successfully assisted Hardin in replacing Elder McNamara as Elder of the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel with himself, and therefore did not assist McNamara in his own tasks (+4). Additionally, Powder Gangers outside of the NCR Correctional Facility and the Powder Ganger camp south would originally attack them even with a neutral reputation if the player character gets too close to one, but this has been corrected in the latest patch to the game. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. They tell me to get lost most of the time, but if being vilified by NCR meant attacked on sight, you pretty much would have to stay away from civilization altogether. A small, sleepy town that can quickly become an ally; or an enemy. Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). You keep the Trudy, the bartender, and Doc Mitchell alive, so thats a plus. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. NVCE changes their appearance. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. Since he is not part of the Powder Ganger faction, he will not attack even if the Powder Gangers in the room become hostile. Info They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. Fallout: New Vegas. I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. Originally, any faction member could be killed without loss of reputation, though only if the player character remained [HIDDEN] or in [CAUTION] for the kill without it progressing to [DANGER]. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. It worked for me. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. If you complete Ghost Town Gunfight without personally killing Joe Cobb, I believe the reputation hit is mild enough not to turn the NCRCF permanently hostile. Even after siding with the NCR and retaking the prison, the alarm will continue to sound. Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. You know, what you are talking about was actually intended to be in the game but was cut. Killing people affiliated with a given faction or town openly (-30 each). But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. At the beginning of the game, i sided with the Town Of Goodsprings against the powder gangers and everytime i try to go to the NCRCF i get shot at and i cant ally with them. Donate doses of either Med-X, Fixer, RadAway (+1 per dose, up to +3 at a time if the maximum amount of multiple doses are given at once). Tai Scott. People will shoot at you if they see you stealing regardless of Reputation, but if it's just that they should return to normal after three in-game days (so you can just come back later or wait it out). I never saw much reforming around here, myself. Positive reputation yields the following: The military order is quite a bit demanding when it comes to establishing one's reputation with them. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. The powder gangers residing at the prison just want freedom and to be left alone while the NCR want control. 1. Offer additions to the Boomer school curriculum for the. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. Not only are they the lowest level of raider, they get [censored] over the fastest. Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). Behind the scenes The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of Southern Nevada Correctional Center, an abandoned prison in Jean, Nevada. That said, the mod can still be started and finished if installed on an ongoing playthrough, with a minor hiccup if the player has already wiped out NCRCF. Hostile is different. You currently have javascript disabled. You can always try to wear a PG outfit and sneak in that way to the prison and talk to the leader in the Admin building. taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. The Gangers are violent and hate the NCR with a passion. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. Other reputations are unaffected. The ranges of reputation vary by faction. (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. (Really early spoilers, I guess? I see so many ppl on here w/ reputation bugs (myself included)I wish an official fix would come out soon. The dialogue option to report dropping the radioactive waste will override the first and Astor will act as if the radioactive waste was dropped while the Legion was still present.). For more information, please see our Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. - posted in New Vegas Discussion: So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. On the road northwest of the facility are six signs that read "NOTICE: Hitch hikers may be escaped prisoners" with the, The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of, Each of the Powder Ganger snipers have an entry for. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. Always alone? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. gamespot.comgiantbomb.commetacritic.comfandom.comfanatical.com, Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReportAd. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. The jail was understaffed. With every faction except Goodsprings, the Boomers and Novac, reputation will reset to neutral. Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. Their biggest raid occurred on Sloan, where they stole an entire cache of dynamite used by the workers to mine Quarry Junction. The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. However, after hearing his offer, choosing to ignore it will not provoke any altercation. What do I do now? Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. The player character can also ignore Pearl's request. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. One of the many mining car collections found in the facility, State prison sign before the turn off to the NCRCF. 5. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Wearing faction armor can be used to kill members of an opposing faction without gaining Infamy with that faction. If anything this taught me to save more often. Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. This location is ideal for player housing, particularly during. shamelesscreature 2 yr. ago. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment positively on each of them (+1 each). If you manage to kill somebody while sneaking, your relation do not suffer. I can't remember if Shunned reputation is enough to actually trigger a faction hostile-on-sight, though. Overview This was changed in the December 14, 2010 update. Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. Unless this was patched in, then no. #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. Fallout: New Vegas. Short of either eliminating them entirely or using console commands, probably not. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. You can loot one from Joe Cobb. What was your reputation with them at that time? Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. and they're playing poker! If the player character has a Liked reputation and helps out enough with the Boomers, they will be offered to raise the. Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. I killed some. The player character may receive discounts with merchants, provoke attacks from hired thugs, or simply be treated differently. Inhabitants There are six factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, Powder Gangers, and the White Glove Society) that have disguises which alter one's reputation among other factions. I never talk to Trudy, and don't even enter the saloon. Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned? AnotherGuy18 6 yr. ago. I mean disappeared too. The gangers weren't even on my rep list despite being hated with goodsprings..not neutral not hated not likednothing. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281 . Headwear is found in articles of matching armor where possible. The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. Understaffed. However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. Leaders This tip can be useful however if one needs to gain access to the NCR Ranger safe house or to use the monorail, or for additional help during the. They are going after the wrong objective. Factions I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. Please present your passport. However, he will continue in casual dialogue as long as one has a good reputation with the gang. Specific consequences of reputation within towns include: Scripted instances of town Infamy include: Impressing the reclusive gun-toting tribe is an art. Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. Fallout: New Vegas. Privacy Policy. [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. Should the player character approach Dawes in disguise, he will notice that they are not an actual Powder Ganger and tell them so. The community on the outskirts of the Strip has its own code, accepting to those that help, and shunning to those that do not. But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. Whether or not the Courier has provoked Powder Gangers elsewhere, the Powder Gangers here are not hostile unless the player character has established a negative reputation with the faction overall. Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. If you do it fast enough, normal dialogue will ensue and you can start I Fought The Law. The leader Pearl predicted that one day an outsider would get past the defenses of Nellis and help connect the Boomers with the rest of the world, even if "only a little." Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. NCR Correctional Facility appears only in Fallout: New Vegas . Refusing to participate in this quest, as long as it is done politely, will still earn Fame, albeit much less (+1). Maybe if they hadn't bothered to design the Prison Uniforms or hand place a bunch of empty whiskey bottles around the NCRCF facility they could have deleted the little part in the file that makes ash piles never go away, or they could have improved pathfinding for companions. Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. Completing Ghost Town Gunfight should now only make you shunned by the Powder Gangers which is caused by completion of the quest and not the death of the Joe Cobb. And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background ? [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). ), So I've always sort of helped Ringo out in this mission but this time I decided to help the Powder Gangers. Cookie Notice Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. Map marker BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. What I always do is during Ghost Town Gunfight, I only kill 3 or 4 of the Powder Gangers. They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend.